The one where Ali and Zamir go to South Africa

Ali and Zamir went to South Africa.

Not for a holiday. For “business.” (If HMRC ask you)

Anyway, what happens when two Amazon founders swap Slack for safari?

They end up talking trust, teams, and the weird magic of working in person.

(I know i’ve read your mind there, you’re impressed, it’s fine).

Also:
– Zamir meets his childhood self
– Ali questions his entire life after a Springboks match
– And the team figure out how to make remote culture work

Catch up with Ali & Zamir in this behind-the-scenes episode of Upside.

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